Pre-release imagery of the awaiting 16th circle of atrocity of Sword Art Online show precisely the route one would anticipate – moronic protagonist selfishly goes in search of virtual fame and prestige yet again.
Disregarding the single person who seems to bother with such a delusional creep, the pitiful protagonist abandons his sister as he ventures out into another online dating world – driven vehemently by romance of the in-game RPG kind. It seems the imouto has nothing more worthwhile to partake in however – and as result, she’s seemingly quick to pester her incompetent brother about his stupidity, rather than leave him be.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 9:14 CDT
You know, it would make more sense to target the source, rather than trying to meet her in the game that he has no control over whatsoever, what would he gain by that, would asuna be logged out if he met her? would something of a miracle happen in a program? apparently cliche romance is more favored than let’s say, a story where kirito gathers allies or gathers evidence that will expose the guy of his actions, thereby getting the absolute hand of the law to smite him, in turn the authorities will find a way to get asuna logged out, but that’s asking too much for this show, as the characters in this show take the most illogical approach to any situation possible….
Oct 19, 2012 @ 9:17 CDT
You can’t ask for logic in anime these days.
It’s what anime deserves but not what anime (industry) needs right now.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 9:36 CDT
can’t say that is false, although if incorporated, the works would result in absolute brillance (Fate/zero, Kokoro Connect, Death Note, Jintai, Steins;Gate, Madoka, if i continue this list, it would be too long)
although i am having doubts for the authorities of SAO, why allow another game like the one that caused a tragedy of 4000+ people dying to exist again without any complaints?
Oct 19, 2012 @ 9:48 CDT
In reality, there would be a halt on these games while mass investigation goes underway and units are mobilized to pursue relevant individuals.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 9:58 CDT
The characters in SAO are too dumb to understand such a process
Oct 19, 2012 @ 10:15 CDT
Well, the anime hasn’t gotten to that part in the novel yet, and I don’t know if they’ll explain it all because a lot of it was internal monologue, but ALO (the fairy game) started up about a year after SAO using the new VR helmet thing Amusphere that was advertised as being completely safe as that microwave thing that would kill SAO players was fixed so this helmet can’t kill people.
And, there is a mass investigation still underway, and people are still looking for the SAO creator. They mentioned that in the last episode, that they haven’t found him and that the government made a special team to handle all this stuff who’s investigating shit. They haven’t made the connection to ALO and the missing SAO players (like Kirito’s black friend has), but I mean, come on, it’s not all that unrealistic to imagine the government dropping the ball on something.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 10:21 CDT
“They mentioned that in the last episode”
In other words, it was portrayed poorly. Making a meager reference to it in the midst of “I’m going to save my online girlfriend!” is not effective – secondly, it is also improper to jump to the conclusion that conveniently, just because it’s plot relevant, the government happens to be idling whilst thousands of people have died and thousands more awakened from a coma. It’s very much unrealistic to imagine that such would be the case – yet either way, this series has already proved itself unrealistic, illogical, and purely nonsensical.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 13:47 CDT
“unrealistic, illogical, and purely nonsensical.”
illogical and nonsensical is fine as it’s a subjective opinion, but unrealistic? have you ever watched a realistic anime? and by realistic I mean something that has a good chance of happening in real life.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 14:15 CDT
Yes actually, I have – although FYI, the metric of quality isn’t to compare to other series.
Also “illogical and nonsensical is fine as it’s a subjective opinion” – this is not a subjective opinion because it’s already been extensively proven how the series is both.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 14:47 CDT
you know that we’re not talking about a perfect science here, right? if it’s math, or chemistry, then you can say prove, but this is an show that has as objective entertainment, so if the show reach the objective depends only on the person that is watching the show. that’s why there isn’t a perfect anime that everyone likes, but only a excellent anime that almost everyone likes, and if you want an example, I like it, while you don’t. so sorry, but it is subjective.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 15:14 CDT
No, when a statement is proven with evidence, then it is a proven fact – not subjective. The fact you still like it despite this, that is subjective.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 18:42 CDT
Look, if I of all people head-deak at the background of this show…..
Oct 19, 2012 @ 9:57 CDT
You used to have actually well thought out and legitimate complaints towards the show, but every recent review of your has pretty much been centered around the fact that you seem to think it’s impossible and pathetic that this guy fell in love, just because it was in a game, a game which was, by the way, his and 6000 other people’s real life for 2 years. Every fucking post, nothing like the early reviews where you actually pointed things out about the series which are true, but simply hating on Kirito, and not for the real reasons which are there.
“moronic protagonist selfishly goes in search of virtual fame and prestige yet again”
No, he goes to find the girl he loves, but because it was online when he met her, he’s just a creepy loser, right? There are plenty of things to complain about with this show (like what gargamesh said about going in himself instead of going to police or something, because he could contact that SAO Taskforce who told him where Asuna was), why don’t you make actual legitimate statements instead of slinging bullshit every week that boils down to, “He’s in love, so fuck him, he’s pathetic.”
All I ask is that when you talk about how bad the show is, you use the shit that’s there, not your own bullshit reasons.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 10:08 CDT
“All I ask is that when you talk about how bad the show is, you use the shit that’s there, not your own bullshit reasons.”
Is that because you need the same obvious problems pointed out to you every episode? My statements ridicule the inconsistency, foolishness, or outright error in the tale of Sword Art Online as portrayed by the anime series without explicitly stating them because they’ve already been long stated – and they’re so purely ridiculous at that, they’re as evident as how many fingers you have on each hand. I’m sure you have the mental capacity to piece together A and B and come to a conclusion.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 10:28 CDT
“Is that because you need the same obvious problems pointed out to you every episode?”
No, because I know what’s wrong with the show, I’m just really easy to please and can enjoy it regardless.
“they’ve already been long stated”
That’s true, and I guess it would get awfully boring reading the same complaints every week, but every week there’s something new that even I, as one who likes the show, can see, and I imagine one as critical of the series as you could find plenty of new problems to talk about without resorting to what I see as unfounded complaints about Kirito’s character.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 10:34 CDT
I’m using literary devices, your failure comprehend them is a woe of your own.
And secondly, unfounded according to what? I’ve not seen you, nor anyone else for that matter, prove any of them wrong with evidence from the anime series.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 15:02 CDT
Very well, and sorry I took so long, I had classes to go to.
“he’s some senile freak who believes the death of a videogame character is something to end his life over.”
Yes, he’s a freak because he was in shock that the woman he loves was just killed in front of him. How odd of him.
“And with that, Kirito awakens back to reality – a frail reject who has at least gained something valuable during his time in Sword Art Online. From before, he had nothing – he had no friends, and he was lonely, a total discard of society. However now, Kirito’s life has changed entirely – he can get people to feel sorry for him once they learn he’s a refugee of an online videogame, going from the ranks of nobody, to a pitiable creature.”
You’re right, he gained nothing, he didn’t fall in love, he didn’t gain an appreciation for life, he didn’t make real friends. And if you’re insist on talking about how people will view him now, wouldn’t it make more sense for him to have gained regard as the man who saved 6,000 lives by ending the game (well, minus 300)?
“Devastation reigns upon the foolish protagonist – being back in reality seems to be a nightmare for Kirito as he’s a loser now forced to face the “real world”, as well as the loss of all his fictional wealth. His virtual gold, girls, and status are all gone – and the harsh truth that he’s merely an irrelevant “nobody” outside of an online dating game quickly leaves his soul faint, and mind short of shattering.”
It’s clear to everyone watching that the only reason he shows any depression, or that nightmare at the beginning of episode 15, is because Asuna’s still asleep. You tell me to prove your comments are unfounded using the anime series, but that street goes both ways, the only factual statement in that paragraph is that his girl being gone is a reason for his soul being faint and mind short of shattering.
“…seemingly eager to show off all the skills he’s learned from playing an RPG, believing himself to have become an expert just like a kid would.
Of course however, given that this is the series where the protagonists are an elite class, immune to death, winning even when losing, and surrounded by members of the opposite gender, it appears that Kirito has indeed magically become a master swordsman from all the one-frame kills achieved in his favorite RPG game.”
He fought for his life against monsters and shit for two years, moving his own (virtual) body to fight. So the reflexes are there in his brain, like muscle memory (where the word muscle may be misleading, but muscle memory is all about making an action as natural as breathing, where your brain just tells your body to do it without much conscious effort.). It makes perfect sense that the skills he honed for two years would transfer over to some degree. If his brain knows what to do, the body will follow, at least until he wears himself out.
“he’s just a creep obsessed with a girl he “married” in an RPG game.”
Once again, why is he a creep? Because he loves her and she loves him? And you seem to be mocking their RPG “marriage”, when to the people in SAO, that was the only thing they had. The marriage may not be legal, but it’s still very real, it was simply the only option available for two people who loved each other in-game.
“Unable to bear the weight of the “real world”, the fellow then sets out to save his internet wife – the only person who ever loved him, albeit inside of a videogame. With that, he leaves his sister once more – which does well to show how lowly he thinks of her in comparison to a girl he met in an RPG game.”
Seems like I’ve just been saying the same shit over and over again… Anyway, he’s not leaving his sister, he’s not getting trapped in the game, he’s playing for a couple hours a day. Do you spend every waking moment with your family? Also, is it fair to say, “He’s trying to save someone’s life (or mind, consciousness, whatever), that means he cares so little for his little sister who is perfectly fine”? It’s like saying, “that cop left home to go save lives, he must care so little for his family, I mean he left them while they work and go to school to save someone else, how callous of him.
Ugh, I don’t even know why I’m doing this, this is just so damn tedious…well whatever.
“I’m using literary devices, your failure comprehend them is a woe of your own.”
When you speak of these literary devices, are you referring to your comments on Kirito or to the stuff I mentioned before the “unfounded” part in that comment? Because if it’s the latter, ok, I get it, but if the former, then I really do fail to comprehend. What literary device are you using when you make comments filled with conjecture and half-truths? I say half-truths because, well, take “he’s just a creep obsessed with a girl he “married” in an RPG game.” He is certainly obsessed with her and he did marry her in an RPG, and yet you spin it to make it seem bad. It’s like someone saying, “I love kids.” and the next day the headlines read, “SCANDAL: Person X admits to being child-lover” Technically true, and yet not what was meant by the comment. Not a perfect analogy by any means, but I couldn’t think of anything else and I got shit to do, so I can’t spend forever writing this crap out.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 15:31 CDT
Your ability to take portions of a separate article out of context on an unrelated article is definitely commendable – although you fail to account for established details.
“Yes, he’s a freak because he was in shock that the woman he loves was just killed in front of him. How odd of him.”
The woman he loves happens to be in a digital world, and wasn’t actually killed in front of him as we come to see. Nonetheless, he tosses aside her sacrifice as well as his chance to return to reality, where real people are, for what? His digital depression over the death of his online girlfriend – evidently placing everything else below that.
The article you pull these quotes from explains this, although you seemingly quoted only what is favorable for your point of view. And for that purpose, it “Seems like I’ve just been saying the same shit over and over again…” – go back and try to comprehend what you couldn’t the first time around.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 15:50 CDT
I’m not the one of that post, but when I saw what you just said I was like :WTH?
“The woman he loves happens to be in a digital world, and wasn’t actually killed in front of him as we come to see. Nonetheless, he tosses aside her sacrifice as well as his chance to return to reality, where real people are, for what? His digital depression over the death of his online girlfriend – evidently placing everything else below that.”
I would understand you if the digital wolrd is like a normal mmo, that would be really stupid, if asuna is just a NPC or a non real character, then you are 100% right, but if it’s a vrmmo, then it’s on a whole different reason, the message of SAO I think is that if the “feeling” is real, no matter where you are, it’s real, it’s important. I think this is a very common message in animes, it’s not the fist thime where a character is transported in a different world and the bond he form on that world are as important as the real one. this is actually the reply of only your first sentence.
about the rest, in the last episode, near the end, he saw a photo in game where a character resembled asuna, and asuna hasn’t awoken yet. the logical reason would be to take a look at the new game.
and it seems like you think asuna is dead, well, she isn’t. I don’t know if you watched the last episode, but I think you should watch it again, because it seems you missed a lot.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 16:00 CDT
So a stranger in a virtual world is definitely more important than real family, real life, and all the things I’ve already explained numerous times?
“and it seems like you think asuna is dead,”
No, believe it or not, if you read my comment, it says she “wasn’t actually killed in front of him as we come to see” – and if you don’t mind me explaining this complex arrangement of words to you, it means that despite what the series showed us, she wasn’t killed.
I don’t doubt whether you read my comments or not, I’m quite positive your ability to comprehend them fails however – you’ve already admit yourself you can’t understand what I’m saying. I’d appreciate it if you used whatever necessary resources to digest the meaning of my text before responding because this is not very productive otherwise.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 16:32 CDT
Keep in mind that at that time, he didn’t know she was going to survive, so at that point in the story, saying she was just killed in front of him is a valid statement. He had no idea she would live.
“The woman he loves happens to be in a digital world”
“His digital depression over the death of his online girlfriend”
Why does the fact that he met her online in the game make their love somehow fake and cheap when compared to people in the real world? The fact that their current bodies were digital doesn’t change the fact they love each other. You seem to be hung up on the fact that unless you are in close proximity to their physical body, you can’t possibly have any kind of real feelings for another person. Yes, their bodies were digital, but they saw, felt, and heard with these bodies, bodies which were exact copies of their real life bodies, so they were able to spend time with one another, touch each other and speak to each other. So tell me, what is it exactly about the digital nature of the relationship that makes it worth less than relationships with physical bodies outside the game?
“The article you pull these quotes from explains this”
Yes, and poorly. Your “explanation” is hinged on the idea that because he only met her in the game, that makes it idiotic and wrong for him to be depressed and put into a state of shock by her apparent death. Once you discard the idea that his relationship with her shouldn’t be so important to him because it isn’t “real”, the ensuing actions are perfectly reasonable (well, understandable).
Oct 19, 2012 @ 16:51 CDT
I like how of all I explained, you quote only the first half of two separate sentences and change your position to focus solely on those segments you pulled out of context.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 10:10 CDT
http://goo.gl/BxWTj
What am I thinking just now !
Oct 19, 2012 @ 13:52 CDT
“moronic protagonist selfishly goes in search of virtual fame and prestige yet again.”
and I thought that kirito in real life is a scared pussy but still he gathered all his courage to get in a virtual game again only to save his gf…so really selfish of him
Oct 19, 2012 @ 14:17 CDT
This isn’t much of a legitimate debate you’ve started here – although the fact he’s a “scared pussy” is exactly why he’s receding to a virtual world, saving his digital girlfriend for his own satisfaction.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 14:41 CDT
again I didn’t quite understand what you just said. how can save someone else while risking your own life be considere something done for your own satisfaction.
In this case we’re talking about asuna, kirito’s girlfriend, so it’s possible that he’s saving her only because of this, it’s possible that if it’s someone else, he wouldn’t care about that person, but still it’s not possible to call this action selfish, for his own satisfaction.
if you mean that he’s going to a virtual world to save asuna only as an excuse to get away from the real world, so that he won’t the a crying pussy anymore, it’s possible, but not in this anime.
from what I saw till now, it seems that his love is genuine and I don’t think I saw any hint about him going in a VR only for his own gain in the last episode. And we’re talking about kirito, someone you called many times a generic protagonist (at least I think you said that, not sure though, if not then I’m sorry), so he will never commit evil without a valid reason, we’re not talking about light yagami here.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 15:19 CDT
“how can save someone else while risking your own life be considere something done for your own satisfaction.”
Because their intention is to derive their own pleasure from the deed, not aide the other person in the deed.
” so he will never commit evil without a valid reason”
Your assumptive logic is not a valid basis for argument – and you’re also making a mistake by grouping things into unfitting terms like “evil”. There’s a difference between psychological instability and villainy.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 15:36 CDT
I’m not sure how I should reply this.
I said this : “how can save someone else while risking your own life be considere something done for your own satisfaction.”
you said this : “Because their intention is derive their own pleasure from the deed, not aide the other person in the deed.”
but you should notice that half of my previous post is an answer for what you just said, so, it’s fine to just quote a sentence, but please at least take it in the right context, with the right meaning.
“Your assumptive logic is not a valid basis for argument – and you’re also making a mistake by grouping things into unfitting terms like “evil”. There’s a difference between psychological instability and villainy.”
this will be something long and I don’t want to change subject so please let me correct myself.
“so he will never commit a selfish act without a valid reason”
I wasn’t specificly talking about evil, I meant that as he is a generic character, there won’t be a sudden plot twist that will change his character, so he is not going in a VR for his personal gain (be a hero again), but to save his loved one (so not his own satisfaction), I’m just talking about this, not psychological instability. don’t take this on the level of a psychological analysis. it’s a simple anime, so take it with simplicity in mind.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 15:54 CDT
So by answering your question in a manner you can’t refute, this is taking it in the wrong context, with the wrong meaning?
Secondly, you can change what you said all you want – it doesn’t change that your assumptive logic is not a valid basis for argument. And even accepting what you say, you are admitting he would commit selfish acts. And in respect to your last paragraph, let me quote myself since you evidently didn’t understand the first time, “your assumptive logic is not a valid basis for argument”.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 16:12 CDT
can we just go back from where it started? I didn’t want such a long suff, I don’t even know how it escalated into this. all I wanted to say is simply :”No sorry Seven, you’re wrong, kirito is not going into a virtual world again because he can’t live in the real world so he went back into the virtual world to get his prestige back, he is doing that to save his loved one, so this is not a selfish act”
then you said this : “Because their intention is to derive their own pleasure from the deed, not aide the other person in the deed.”
but it isn’t true! where did you get this information?
Oct 19, 2012 @ 16:57 CDT
So you’re changing everything you said and asserting my position to be a statement I made much earlier in respect to your separate question of:
“how can save someone else while risking your own life be considere something done for your own satisfaction.”
Feel free to return after you have a valid argument.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 18:32 CDT
Whoa, I see some like minded anons here. I’m of the same opinion as them actually. SAO has horrible terribad points, but some of your assertions about the characters, namely Kirito, look like they are clearly spun around to make Kirito look worse then he is.
For example you replied to Anon’s question about “How is Kirito risking his life to save someone a selfish action?” like so: “Because their intention is to derive their own pleasure from the deed, not aide the other person in the deed.”
First, how do you know Kirito went into ALO just to for his own personal pleasure? From the LN I know he enters ALO very reluctantly and didn’t considering VRMMOS at all after his SAO experience, but even leaving the LN aside the anime gives no compelling evidence that Kirito wants to save Asuna only to feel like hot shit. Kirito has repeatedly been shown as someone who helps others when he can, even if he isn’t particularly keen on social interactions (He saved the Black Cats of the Moon guild in ep 3 after all). While some of his “selfless” actions also had ulterior motives, those motives were not malicious and didn’t detract from his deeds.
Also a lot of your complaints about Kirito’s mental status seem to stem from the assumption that digital experiences are inferior to physical ones. I know anon said this before, but there’s a fine line between a true virtual reality experiences and physical ones. If Kirito was playing some game over the computer and going all gaga over a digital avatar on a screen, I too would be disgusted and see him as a creep. But a VR experience is almost indistinguishable compared to reality.
Kirito and Asuna’s relationship was rushed and poorly developed from a literal standpoint, that much is true. However that has no relation to the virtual reality nature of their relationship, which you seem to blast every other post.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 20:02 CDT
More importantly, I’d like to know what compelled you to fabricate this quote:
“How is Kirito risking his life to save someone a selfish action?”
When he really asked this:
“how can save someone else while risking your own life be considere something done for your own satisfaction.”
One of the reasons this series fails to receive productive discussion is because those in defense of it either jump to the light novel, which you’ve thankfully not done, yet instead you conjure up something of your own in place of the actual.
And better yet, you merely echo all previously stated points by others, which even though you recognize it, is not fine.
“But a VR experience is almost indistinguishable compared to reality.”
How many times does it have to be described that the anime presents all of this poorly? How many times must it be explained how awful the character development is, or how the plot has more holes than Swiss cheese? Or better yet, how many times must it be pointed out that this is already half-way into the series, and these problems have persisted, thereby meaning it hardly matters at this point what else it does?
If you want to argue about something, go to try to refute already established points instead of things you’ve been unsuccessfully bellowing your complaints against since ten or more episodes ago. And I feel it just necessary to say, I’m speaking in general.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 21:28 CDT
Haha, well I did change his quote around, but the actual meaning remains the same. I don’t really see how I’ve conjured up something different out of thin air though? I reworded his sentence to make it more understandable.
It’s true we’re echoing points, but I believe it’s because we haven’t been given a satisfactory counter argument for them.
The main reason why most defenders don’t argue previously established points like the art/animation, character development, plot holes, etc are because either it’s a fact that can’t be argued against (Such as bad animation) or an opinion that can’t really be changed (How “likeable” a character is).
There are a portion of viewers such as myself who acknowledge these flaws and still enjoy the series because we enjoy the characters or have a high tolerance for mediocrity. Hence why I call you out when you make negative assumptions or assertions about the characters that aren’t true. Your counterargument seems to be that it’s OK to misinterpret and blast the characters since you believe the anime has plot holes/awful character development and persistent problems. This seems rather odd to me since you seemed keen to ask for accurate logical proof when defending certain aspects of the show, but don’t do the same when asked about your interpretation of the characters.
I do see I am making a lot of guesses and assumptions about what you believe based on your text, so if any of it is wrong please correct me. I have a bad tendency to go overboard at times and read what other people say in a way that fits my arguments.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 21:47 CDT
In his question, he’s referencing a general “someone” – which if such wasn’t his intention, he did a poor job at writing a sentence.
“but don’t do the same when asked about your interpretation of the characters.”
Because there’s nothing to support – when I say something like “Kirito’s a loser”, it shouldn’t take more than a 5th grade reading level at worst to realize I’m just making fun of him. So then you should use your problem solving skills and ask yourself why, why am I possibly making fun of a protagonist who seems more obsessed with a digital girlfriend than a real family member, and has an overpowered arsenal of attacks, and plays the leading role in a series geared nowhere?
Oct 19, 2012 @ 22:05 CDT
Hahaha alright. I realize I’m taking these remarks more seriously then I should. I should remember the mindset I had when reading your hilarious Accel World posts. x.x I enjoyed those a lot because I had no sympathy for Porky-kun heh.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 22:20 CDT
” because I had no sympathy for Porky-kun heh.”
Although I watched the whole series of Accel World, I disliked that short fat kid whose avatar is that pink pig. But overall the series was a good ending.
Oct 19, 2012 @ 22:38 CDT
Although i believe this problem was already cleared, let me say this for the anons as a quote from my previous statement:
“You know, it would make more sense to target the source, rather than trying to meet her in the game that he has no control over whatsoever, what would he gain by that, would asuna be logged out if he met her? would something of a miracle happen in a program?”
let’s do say that him going in there would be a selfless act, but in the end, there would be no need for him going in there anyway, as even if he does find asuna, it would not wake her up in the real world, unless of course, this show will find some half-baked reason to make it so, he doesn’t have to put more time in a Virtual World but instead make stuff happen in the real world so he can solve his problems
Oct 20, 2012 @ 16:43 CDT
The reason he went in ALO was to ascertain that the girl was Asuna.
After that it would be possible to rouse the SAO-incident police which would be more than willing to arrest the one behind the last 300 imprisoned people.
Kazuto made certain connections with the government due to being the one who ended SAO.
Oct 20, 2012 @ 16:53 CDT
And you learned this all from the light novel…?
Oct 20, 2012 @ 20:16 CDT
Aye, sadly anime adapted from novels skip juicy details like most thought processes and explainations.
Wasn’t Dantalian no Shoka the same compared to its novel?
Oct 20, 2012 @ 21:12 CDT
you can expect some things to be cut from the novel if it’s adapted into animation, Dantalian no Shoka at least didn’t skip on important details that made the story coherent, even without most thought processes and explanations, the viewer should understand what’s going on through proper dialogue,if not the anime is just poorly adaptated
As proof, you run to the novel’s facts to defend he show that one who hasn’t read the novel has no idea about, and the anime is separate from the novel, so it’s irrelevant to do so to begin with, no offense
Oct 20, 2012 @ 21:22 CDT
Incidentally, Dantalian no Shoka seemed complex because it was actually complex and though-provoking – truly a rarity these days.
Sword Art Online is just botched and broken.
Oct 21, 2012 @ 0:13 CDT
Each of them was true to its main genre. One being about mysteries/supernatural and the other about games/scifi.
I like both series.
If anything Dantalian was more rushed by trying to to over 4 volumes in 12 episodes while SAO is like 24-26 episodes for 4.6 volumes.
Appears that from the majority of comments in various that this anime is considered mostly a decent one
IF you think it is an atrocity then I shudder to think about what opinion you got about worthless anime like that Ro-Kyu-Bu for example.
Of course you also may be the type who highly exaggerates his/her opinion for more entertainment impact in which case sorry for being so worked up from your posts about SAO.
Oct 21, 2012 @ 2:01 CDT
sao certainly did not stay true to it’s genre, as it focused on neither the games nor sci-fi but instead cliche romance
also, dantalian didn’t feel rushed at all , the storytelling and plot were all good, and there are other series like katanagatari and kara no kyoukai which allocated one volume and chapter respectively, for a single episode and still turned out good, the fact that sao had more time to expand it’s story yet still turn out to be inconsistent and incoherent, proves it is horrible
Oct 20, 2012 @ 21:59 CDT
Having both you and gargamesh debating your views PLUS making fun of SAO, is a lot more entertaining and enjoyable, than watching SAO itself. The two of you could be a show and you would still do better than SAO.
BTW how’s the bgm? From the first 3 episodes, I could tell that this won’t be Yuki Kajiura’s stellar batch, unlike the amazing tracks she gave us from Kara no Kyoukai and Fate/Zero.
(On an unrelated note, I am glad to know that one of my friends “had to stop watching the new episode of SAO half way through because it was just bad.” Cheesy forced romance is cheesy and bad.)
Oct 20, 2012 @ 22:06 CDT
I watched the first six minutes of the new episode and just stopped – it was too terrible, and it’s not even worth getting the kicks from ridiculing it this time around since I’d much rather rewatch Shigofumi instead.
Oct 20, 2012 @ 22:19 CDT
If you’re unable to watch the new episode, you should post the episodic review with a derpy screenshot of Kirito, naming the post “Kirito is a Loser”, because it was that bad. I don’t know if trying to watch SAO now, is the same as trying to watch bad Nicolas Cage movies, but they’re probably similar.
Don’t be too disgruntled if you can’t write the weekly SAO-bash post, because there are other bloggers who bash SAO as much as you do.
Shigofumi is another series that I will watch, someday.
Oct 20, 2012 @ 22:31 CDT
You make it sound like I have some sort of duty.
Everything I’m doing here is for my own purposes – one way or another. No one is obligated to receive anything except myself.
Oct 20, 2012 @ 22:34 CDT
Sorry if I made it sound like that. Didn’t mean to offend you or imply anything.
Oct 20, 2012 @ 22:43 CDT
Not offence – my point is I’m not running a complicated operation as this for sake of something like meeting a commonplace agenda.
I’m not concerned with what others view Sword Art Online as – and there’s no reason to care either.